Subject: Re: Is cross dressing legal in Gib?
From: ms_donna@donnas-hideout.org (Donna Matthews)
Date: 11 Oct 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.support.crossdressing
In article <7to4og$8i0$1@talia.mad.ttd.net>, "Ian Forrest"
I know the transvestite, usually male, dresses in female clothing for
emotional and sexual gratifcation and that this is not neccesarily the
case with crossdressers.
As for the terminology, we tend to shy away from the term
transvestite as it carried too much baggage from the psych
community: i.e. Transvestic Fetishism - DSM-IV diagnostic code 302.3, which
is categorized as a paraphilia. Also,crossdresser it a more accurate term
as it describes the person in relation to the action without making
any depreciatory implications about the individual.
From the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:
The colloquial usage of androgynous is somewhere between 2a and 3 above.
Quite often, individuals who make an androgynous presentation will
employ crossdressing as a means of achieving the desired effect.
The significance of this is that we are people who have dared to challenge
that which is at the core of how our society is organized. The man/woman
dichotomy is assumed to be a natural one. The naturalness of this
is bassed on the assumption that men are male and women are female.
Sex (male/female) and gender (man/woman) have been linked and
assumed to be the same thing. As a rule, most people use the two
terms interchangably. The problem is that the two are not the same
thing.
Basically, sex is biology. It's about plumbing and parts. I won't deny
the male/female dichotomy, although even that is not as clear cut as one
might like. One need only line up people and have a look to see that
there is some basis for it.
Gender, however, is not about biology. Gender, in it's colloquial
usage, refers to "the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits
typically associated with one sex." The key here being typically
associated. While a gender may be typically associated with a specific sex,
it is not a hard and fast rule.
It is important to note that as it is about "the behavioral, cultural, or
psychological traits typically associated with one sex", gender is not
something static or fixed. It changes from culture to culture and over
time. In short, gender is culturally defined and ergo is *not* something
natural or innate. That society has choosen to link it to sex is not to
imply that gender 'naturally' follows from one's sex. And yet, that is
exactially how children are raised. Males are raised as boys and
females are raised as girls. At no time are the feelings of the child
taken into consideration on this point. In fact, children exhibiting
non-conforming gender traits are corrected immediately. The
assignment of gender and it's subsequent enforcement are completely
non-concentual. Another quote, this one by Pat Califia from her book "Sex
Changes: The Politics of Transgenderism" speaks to this:
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Thanks for that interesting historical nugget, Little Sugar was a male
dressing in female clothes, right?
Technically, the two (transvestite and crossdresser) are the same thing.
Crossdressing is usually undertaken specifically for emotional reasons,
satisfying the need for the expression of that part of ourselves which
society in general would rather we pretend did not exist. And while there
can (and often is) a sexual component associated with crossdressing (as
there can be with most any activity), it is the emotional
satisfaction of self expression which is dominant.
Can anyone explain the similarity between a crossdresser and an androgyne, if any?
I'll assume that you are using the term 'androgyne' to mean one who is
androgynous.
an·drog·y·nous Function: adjective Etymology: Latin androgynus hermaphrodite, from Greek androgynos, from andr- + gynE woman -- more at QUEEN Date: 1651 Meaning:
1: having the characteristics or nature of both male and female 2 a: neither specifically feminine nor masculine <the androgynous pronoun them> b: suitable to or for either sex <androgynous clothing> 3: having traditional male and female roles obscured or reversed <an androgynous marriage>
It would be helpful if someone could also explain the culture of
crossdressing and it's significance in modern societies.
Crossdressing is not a 'culture'. Individuals who crossdress cut across
all cultural lines. We are males, females, black, white, oriental,
christial, jewish, rich, poor, attractive, homely and all other points
inbetween. The thing we all have in common is a lack of affinity towards
the gender to which we were assigned at birth. Many of us identify
strongly with that gender opposite to that which we were assigned.
Others of us reject the binary system of gender which has been enbraced by
most, declaring ourselves as something other than either a man or a
woman. In all cases, it amounts an individual declaring, for themselves,
their identity. Phyllis Burke in her book "Gender Shock" summs this up
quite well:
"To cross-dress, whether across class or gender boundaries, means to
challenge the identity that society has dictated, to declare that you are
not quite what has been determined by powers outside of yourself."
Crossdressing is not about clothing. It is about the meaning
associated with the clothing and using that association as a means to
establish an identity and sense of self independant of that which
has been assigned to us by society.
"...it's not supposed to be hard work to be accepted as a man or a woman;
it's supposed to be a natural and effortless process. Few of us are even
aware of the pervasive rewards and punishments that shape our gender
identities - unless that process was not successful. I suspect much of the
hatred and fear of transsexuals is based on the discomfort that others
experience when forced to recall the pain of involuntary gender
conditioning. It is easier to believe we never had a choice about
something so fundamental than to process and accept the fact that the
choice was taken away from us and ruthlessly suppressed."
The significance of crossdressers and other gender variant individuals in
society is that we are no longer willing to have out identities
assigned to us. We reject, sometimes on a wholesale basis, the
notion that we should be the men and women we were told we are.
Instead, we have opted to embrace and accept who are really are,
whoever that may be. As a result, we are becomming more visible. That
means that we can no longer be ignored or discounted as a bunch of
weirdos. More and more, gender variant people are choosing
to be visible, thus bringing us more into the mainstream of society. As we
move from the background to the forefront, society will have to yield to
the fact that gender, as it is defined today, is a wholely
inadequate construct and in need of revision.
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